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Families With Sick Kids on Medicaid Seek Easier Access to Out-of-State Hospitals

Three-year-old Elizabeth Zakutansky was born with a rare genetic condition that causes multiple seizures. Her neurologist, a top expert on treating her condition, practices at Lurie Children鈥檚 Hospital of Chicago, less than an hour鈥檚 drive from the Zakutanskys鈥 home in Hobart, Indiana. Her parents would like her to get all her care there.

But Lurie wouldn鈥檛 continue to treat Elizabeth, because her insurer, Indiana Medicaid, pays out-of-state providers much less than in-state facilities. That鈥檚 true for most state Medicaid programs. So the Zakutanskys pay the Lurie neurologist out-of-pocket for consultations, and the doctor gives detailed instructions for Elizabeth鈥檚 care to their local pediatrician.

When Elizabeth suffers uncontrolled seizures, however, she needs quick interventions. Her parents have to pull their two teenagers out of school and the whole family drives 2陆 hours to Riley Hospital for Children in Indianapolis, the state鈥檚 only specialized pediatric facility. If she has to be admitted, the family sometimes must leave her there to return to their jobs and school.

Elizabeth Zakutansky of Hobart, Indiana, was born with a rare genetic condition that causes multiple seizures. Her health care is covered by Medicaid, but the program pays out-of-state doctors and hospitals less than those in Indiana, forcing the family to pay out-of-pocket for some of the care she needs, says her mother, Laura. (Laura Zakutansky)

鈥淚t鈥檚 terrible to leave your daughter and drive home so far away,鈥 said Laura Zakutansky, Elizabeth鈥檚 mother. 鈥淵ou aren鈥檛 there to comfort her. One seizure could kill her. How would you feel about that if you weren鈥檛 there?鈥

Making top-quality care accessible at out-of-state children鈥檚 hospitals for kids with complex medical needs has long vexed families, providers and Medicaid programs. The choice of an out-of-state hospital can be a matter of convenience for patients and their families, and it may also mean ensuring state-of-the-art care, since only a limited number of hospitals and physicians in the country have the skills and experience to best treat children with certain conditions.

Congress has recognized the problem. Two years ago, it passed a law allowing states to voluntarily establish , potentially making it easier for out-of-state providers to serve as the coordinating caregiver for children with complex conditions. Participating states would receive a temporary boost in federal Medicaid funding to launch the program. But the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services said it has no 鈥渄efinitive timeline鈥 for issuing guidance to the states on how to set this up.

State Medicaid officials argue that their states can鈥檛 afford to send children to out-of-state facilities that demand higher payment rates. Children鈥檚 hospitals say all they want is rates equal to what Medicaid pays in-state providers. Complicating matters is that most states have private Medicaid managed-care plans running their programs, and those plans decide which providers patients can go to and how much to pay them.

But Indiana lawmakers are moving on bills that would boost Medicaid payments to children鈥檚 hospitals in bordering states 鈥 Illinois, Kentucky, Michigan and Ohio 鈥 to near-parity with in-state facilities. Currently, a facility in Chicago might receive reimbursement as low as one-fourth of what an Indiana hospital would get for the same services. Both the House of Representatives and the Senate passed versions of the bill, and they are expected to reconcile the differences shortly and send it to the governor. The projected annual cost to the state is $300,000 to $950,000. To address fears that it may cost more, the bill would have to be reauthorized in two years.

鈥淭hese families have to schlep down three hours in the snow to Indianapolis, and if they try to reschedule an appointment, they may have to wait another six weeks to get in,鈥 said state Republican Sen. Mike Bohacek, one of the bill鈥檚 lead sponsors. He faced that situation with his own daughter, who was born in 2001 with Down syndrome in critical condition. 鈥淲e can do better.鈥

Nearly 90% of children鈥檚 hospitals serve out-of-state patients, receiving payments from more than six states on average, according to a federal Medicaid commission last year. Two-thirds of the states pay out-of-state hospitals a lower rate than in-state facilities. Kids with complex medical conditions account for on pediatric care.

Children鈥檚 hospitals say getting approval from Medicaid agencies and managed-care plans to treat out-of-state children and negotiating payment often takes more time than delivering the care. They have to arrange individualized case agreements for each patient.

Dr. John Cunningham, physician in chief at Comer Children鈥檚 Hospital in Chicago, said hospital staff members recently removed a brain tumor in a child from northwestern Indiana. But Medicaid refused a payment deal that would have enabled Comer to continue treating the patient, forcing the family to go to Indianapolis for follow-up care.

鈥淭he transfer was not because of the care. It was because of an artificial boundary called a state line,鈥 said Cunningham, whose hospital is treating 275 kids from northwestern Indiana and has hired a lobbyist to push the Indiana bill. 鈥淭hat鈥檚 a fundamental problem.鈥

But Medicaid officials say that sending kids to out-of-state facilities can be too costly and that interstate travel may not be best for the family. 鈥淲hen a children鈥檚 hospital prides itself on being the top pediatric center for different conditions, it knows people will come and it doesn鈥檛 have to negotiate,鈥 said Matt Salo, executive director of the National Association of Medicaid Directors. 鈥淚t鈥檚 鈥榯ake it or leave it.鈥 That鈥檚 not fair.鈥

Some states and children鈥檚 hospitals have been able to work out broader deals. The Illinois Medicaid program, for instance, has arranged to pay St. Louis Children鈥檚 Hospital in-state rates for serving children in the East St. Louis, Illinois, area.

In contrast, Children鈥檚 Hospital of Philadelphia leaders say their facility often treats children who live just across the Delaware River in New Jersey for much lower rates than New Jersey鈥檚 Medicaid program pays the more distant in-state children鈥檚 hospital 鈥 or without getting paid at all. It offers some services, such as fetal surgery to correct spina bifida, that aren鈥檛 available in New Jersey.

鈥淣one of the Medicaid [managed-care] plans in New Jersey has ever complained that our rates are too high,鈥 said Ahaviah Glaser, senior director of health policy at Children鈥檚 of Philadelphia, which serves 25,000 New Jersey kids a year. 鈥淏ut behind closed doors, they say it鈥檚 too expensive to have a [renowned, out-of-state] children鈥檚 hospital in their plan鈥檚 network, because it attracts sick kids. That鈥檚 illegal and immoral.鈥

New Jersey lawmakers are considering requiring the state鈥檚 five Medicaid managed care plans to offer adequate pediatric care networks within set distance limits.

Wardell Sanders, president of the New Jersey Association of Health Plans, warned that unless it adds rate limits, the bill would hike state Medicaid spending by forcing plans to cover even routine pediatric care at top children鈥檚 hospitals in Philadelphia and New York.

Other children鈥檚 hospitals around the country also complain about Medicaid barriers to treating out-of-state kids. Leaders at the Denver area鈥檚 Children鈥檚 Hospital Colorado, which serves thousands of patients from six surrounding states, say their doctors must obtain separate liability insurance policies in each state. And each has a different policy on covering families鈥 travel and lodging.

鈥淥nce we鈥檝e started to see a patient, we don鈥檛 have a lot of negotiating leverage,鈥 said Annie Lee, Colorado Children鈥檚 executive director of Medicaid strategies and community health. 鈥淲e have rates from states that are all over the board, and we鈥檙e unable to consistently cover the costs of care.鈥

All this can produce hassles and anxiety for parents of very sick children, who already face tremendous stress and costs.

Vinessa Kirkwood, who lives in an Indiana suburb near Chicago, said she鈥檚 had to cancel appointments at Riley Children鈥檚 in Indianapolis for her 20-month-old son, Donte, because she can鈥檛 afford lodging. Also, she shares a car with her partner, who needs it for work, and she juggles Donte鈥檚 care with the needs of her four other children.

She wants Donte, who was born with cerebral palsy and severe digestive problems, to receive his regular care at Lurie Children鈥檚, where he had surgery soon after he was born. So she鈥檚 closely watching what happens with Sen. Bohacek鈥檚 bill.

鈥淚鈥檝e got those Lurie doctors on speed dial,鈥 she said. 鈥淚鈥檓 hoping to get back to them soon.鈥

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