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Surprise! Here鈥檚 Another Bill For That 鈥楶aramedic Response鈥

Katie Gurzi, 85, at her apartment in Long Beach, California on Jan. 21, 2016. Gurzi received a bill from the city of La Habra for $260 after an emergency ambulance ride. 鈥淚 was quite sure I鈥檇 be covered,鈥 she said. 鈥淲hat I didn鈥檛 know is [the city] charges above and beyond.鈥 (Heidi de Marco/KHN)

After Katie Gurzi woke in the middle of the night with excruciating chest pains, paramedics rushed her to the hospital.

That part went smoothly: Gurzi, 85, was pleased with the care she received. And doctors determined she wasn鈥檛 having a heart attack, just a spasm in her esophagus.

But then, in January of 2015, the city of La Habra, California sent her a $260 bill for 鈥減aramedic response鈥 鈥 after her insurers had already been billed for the November ambulance ride. That made Gurzi mad.

It wasn鈥檛 just that she believed the city was trying to reach into her purse for money it couldn鈥檛 get from health insurers. It was that she was rebuffed nearly every step of the way, as she contacted more than a dozen people from city bill collectors to her congressman. Some didn鈥檛 return her calls. Others refused to help. A few were just plain rude.

One city employee threatened to send her to collections, warning she wouldn鈥檛 ever be able to get a loan.

鈥淚 told her, 鈥楬oney, I鈥檓 84. Do what you need to do鈥 You can blacklist me all you want. I鈥檒l be dead,鈥欌 Gurzi said.

When she finally reached the La Habra mayor, Jim Gomez, he was nice enough but told her he didn鈥檛 have the authority to dismiss the fee.

鈥淚 thought, 鈥榶ou鈥檙e kind of a toothless mayor,鈥欌 she said.

Cases like Gurzi鈥檚 may become commonplace as more cities adopt 911 response fees, said Aileen Harper, executive director of Center for Health Care Rights, a government-funded nonprofit that helps Medicare beneficiaries.

Harper鈥檚 organization is helping Gurzi and three others fight similar bills but she believes many more people have simply paid up or haven鈥檛 come forward.

The city of La Habra says the $260 fees are to help recoup expenses that aren鈥檛 sufficiently covered by insurers.

鈥淚t is a fee that the city has in order to offset some of the costs associated with emergency transports,鈥 said Cindy Knapp, bureau manager for the city鈥檚 police department. 鈥淚t is to offset the costs generally, not for a specific transport.鈥

Knapp said the money goes into the general fund but that she couldn鈥檛 answer exactly how it is spent.

Harper said the cities shouldn鈥檛 be billing people like Katie Gurzi because they are already being paid by Medicare or other insurers.

鈥淚t seems to me their underlying rationale is that they don鈥檛 seem to be getting paid enough,鈥 she said. 鈥淚f that is the case, they need to take that up with Medicare and not move those costs to the beneficiaries.鈥

As in several cities around California, La Habra residents can avoid the fee by subscribing to a voluntary paramedic program, which charges an annual fee to cover emergency response. In La Habra, the fee for its FireMed program, as it is known, is $48, up from $36 in 2009.

If they subscribe, Knapp said, they are protected from any out-of-pocket expenses related to the 911 transportation. The city bills the insurance company but accepts whatever is paid without charging the consumer for any unpaid balance, she said.

If they don鈥檛 subscribe, or they aren鈥檛 La Habra residents, Knapp said they have to pay $260 each time they are transported by an ambulance, in addition to what insurers cover.

Although she was taken to a hospital near La Habra, where she had been visiting her brother, Gurzi lives in Long Beach. Her low-income studio apartment is decorated with wooden animal sculptures and beaded artwork from many years spent as a missionary in Africa, where she comforted dying AIDS patients. Among the books on her shelves are a Zulu dictionary and a book of Psalms.

Now retired, Gurzi has had two hip replacements, a mastectomy and a hernia surgery. Even so, she looks younger than her age and she volunteers regularly at a women鈥檚 jail and a local hospital. She lives primarily on Social Security and a small pension from a former job as a coordinator for emergency room physicians.

Gurzi holds her chest as she recalls waking up to severe chest pains, which prompted an ambulance ride to the hospital. (Heidi de Marco/KHN)

When she first received the bill from La Habra, she didn鈥檛 understand it. At the bottom was a one-line explanation: 鈥淩esponse to 911 Emergency call. This bill is a fee for a paramedic response at the scene.鈥

She assumed it was in error because her insurers had covered the service. Then she received another bill several months later. She called the city, explaining it had already been reimbursed for the ambulance ride by her insurers. That鈥檚 when the city employee threatened to send her to collections.

Before long, she got a notice from a collection agency. She called the agency immediately and explained that she was fighting the bill.

Gurzi said she lives by some simple rules. Be honest. Treat people with respect. And when something isn鈥檛 right, speak up. True to her principles, she started a year-long聽campaign against the fee, keeping track of every conversation with a handwritten cursive note. She became so frustrated at one point that she accused the city鈥檚 billing department of 鈥渟enior harassment.鈥

When she contacted her congressman, Rep. Alan Lowenthal (D-Calif.), he responded that the matter was out of his jurisdiction but that he would forward the material to the city manager.

She also reached out to the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, which oversees Medicare, and the Council on Aging in Orange County before she achieved some success with the Center for Health Care Rights. The center soon had three other cases. Two were from Montebello, California, including one involving a 72-year-old woman with mental health issues who was billed $357. Even though the center filed a cease-and-desist order, the city still sent the woman to collections, according to the center.

A 72-year-old man in Anaheim, California who had a stroke was billed $350 by the city for the 911 response, even though Medicare covered the ambulance ride, according to the center.

In response to an e-mail from the health care rights center, Medicare officials wrote back late last year saying the issue was forwarded to 鈥減rogram integrity鈥 investigators.

Before Christmas, Gurzi got some good news. La Habra officials told her that based on her low income, she could apply for a hardship exemption to get the fee waived. But that, Gurzi said, wouldn鈥檛 be honest. After all, she has enough money to pay the bill.

鈥淭his isn鈥檛 a hardship,鈥 she said. 鈥淚t鈥檚 inappropriate billing.鈥

So Gurzi is continuing to fight her bill, which the collections agency told her is now $271.47. She remains miffed that the city of La Habra lacked both 鈥済race and compassion.鈥

鈥淚 think seniors deserve a little better,鈥 she said.

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